April 11, 2008

The sacred dress (Elna Baker)

My Grandmother's Dress

Growing up, Elna Baker was obsessed with one thing: a dress from her grandmother’s closet. Between body issues, her religion, and trying on new identities, the dress became an oddly powerful talisman. (Special thanks to The Moth.)

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[1]
Posted by: Leslie
April 10, 2008 - 10:03PM
Missouri

I love that dress!! Thank God you stood up for yourself Elna.

[2]
Posted by: maria
April 11, 2008 - 10:27AM
nyc

i love this story, as i love all your stories. funny, heart-breaking, and best of all: real.

[3]
Posted by: Blanche
April 11, 2008 - 05:25PM
Texas

I loved it!

Dating in New York is the worst.

[4]
Posted by: Joan
April 12, 2008 - 09:28AM
Connecticut

This is a wonderful story (my only complaint is that I want a better picture of "the sacred dress".)

[5]
Posted by: Justin
April 12, 2008 - 10:44AM
Brooklyn, NY

Very much enjoyed the story.

[6]
Posted by: tania
April 12, 2008 - 10:46AM
New York City

You made me cry, lauch and then cry again. Congratulations and thank you so so much. You're fantastic!

[7]
Posted by: janice warner
April 12, 2008 - 11:03AM
Bronx, New York

I sent this segment to my daughter for the young girls she works with. I also sent it to the counselor of the Middle School where I teach.I know we'll both have our kids listen.

Thank you!

[8]
Posted by: swiss
April 12, 2008 - 01:51PM
Washington DC

I'm totally in the minority here...nice enough story, but reject a guy because he says he's uncomfortable about fat people. A lot of people are. Fat is different than being handicapped, or an ethnic or religious difference. As Elna points out, she was obese and lost 80 pounds. That's a good thing. A great thing, in fact. But I think there's confusion about being loyal to who she was as an obese 230 pound girl...vs having compassion for herself at an earlier, dysfunctional part of her life when she was grossly overweight. The majority of people find fatness unpleasant. It may be comforting to think that all those people are stupid, wrong, superficial, and mean, and that the world should change their view of fatness. But doesn't it make more sense for fat people to try to lose weight and once healthy and trim realize they no longer have to protect that wounded part of themselves that got fat? and instead accept that now they are going to attract people who would not have been interested in them when they were fat? cuz that's the way it is. It's not like saying someone should get plastic surgery. It's simply more attractive when someone is *trying* not to be "beautiful," per se, but to become who they potentially can be...and that usually wouldn't include being obese, would it? Still, an intersting story in the mind of a formerly obese person ambivalent about being more in alignment with what's considered acceptable, appealing, and attractive.

[9]
Posted by: Beth
April 12, 2008 - 02:23PM
Memphis

Studio 360 has reached a new low. This story is indicative of this entire show devoted to what it means to be a girl. The obviousness of the insights in this story are worthy of a storybook targeted at toddlers. I am sure there are girls out there who are involved in issues other than personal beauty and the aggrandizement of mediocrity (Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton) and the quest for vacuous toys which cater to the empty consumerism of American society (American Girl). Surely there are young women who are accomplishing something with their lives.

Thank you for another chapter in the story of our depressing slide back toward the 50's when women were easily marginalized and dismissed.

[10]
Posted by: Daniel
April 12, 2008 - 05:56PM
Long Branch, New Jersey

Great story! Wonderful moral to it too.

[11]
Posted by: Stafford
April 12, 2008 - 10:18PM
Queens, NY

While I loved this story, the lessons, the sharp critique of vacuous men, the insight into the stunning normalcy of the LDS (even in NYC) and the Ms. Baker's evolution, I've got to say that I am sad that the residue of "normative" oppression wasn't addressed more directly. I guess you can't have it all. I loved the story.

[12]
Posted by: david mccullough
April 13, 2008 - 01:01AM
Seaview Road, near Cazadero, California

Aloha Elna and company . . . alone on this star filled night at my fire on my family ranch I listened to your story. Thanks for touching us with your life from bringing some tears to me and at times, making me wish I could have been the one to have fallen in love with you and you, me. Yet I too am guilty of the prejudices explored in the story. I struggle with them as an emergency room nurse, as a non-Mormon, as a man. I found your story dreadfully romantic, sad, hopeful, beautiful, heroic, funny as hell and oh so touching. For some reason, this story and music hit a vulnerable spot in my intellect and heart this night . . . so when I return to the hinterlands of city life, the electronic bustle and beating of our EKG driven machines . . . I'll remember sitting by the fire, looking at 'our' stars and how you managed to touch my heart and share a bit of your life with so many of us. Thanks for that gift of laughter, tinged with pain and joy. I hope you and yours are well in that distant country of NYC! Aloha, david

[13]
Posted by: Akshay
April 13, 2008 - 02:11AM
San Jose, CA

It is admirable how Ms. Baker articulated a subject/story this profound so simply.

Great Story and Neat Narration!

[14]
Posted by: ilene
April 13, 2008 - 10:55AM
cleveland, ohio

You had me captivated by your wonderful story. I couldn't leave the room till I heard the end. Thank you for sharing your story with such sincerity and humor and congratulations on accomplishing your goal of losing all that weight.

[15]
Posted by: Jill
April 13, 2008 - 10:57AM
Massillon, Ohio

It's interesting how differently different people view the same story. Weight loss needs to be for one's self. Not for anyone else. Elna learned something valuable from her life as an obese person. She learned to rely upon herself, her own gifts, her own intelligence. For young women who have never struggled with their weight, it can be easy to neglect one's own interests and slide by, counting upon looks to attract the opposite sex, sublimating one's own desires into the desired person's. Her dabbling with those "attract a man" books only reinforced the hollowness of a man snagged that way.

[16]
Posted by: Joe
April 13, 2008 - 01:30PM

Enjoyed the story, but am wondering if perhaps Elna was displaying the same sort of bigotry that she hated so much when she set her sights on the most attractive guy at the singles meet. She obviously didn't think much of his intelligence or personality, so was interested in him solely for his good looks.

I thought the lesson of being fat was that there is more to someone than a pretty face.

She was surprised when he was superficial? Maybe they belong together after all.

[17]
Posted by: bonnie jo
April 13, 2008 - 03:32PM
detroit, michigan

I am a new to hearing about Elna and visiting her website. I truely related to her being the big girl with the pretty sister, then losing the weight, and being in her grandmothers dress. I started crying on my way home. I really enjoyed your writing and am glad that we have broadcasts like this. I am 30 and see no way that this is a new low for Studio 360 or bringing us back "down" to the 50's. If it wasn't for the 50's we wouldn't have a show as such now. Also being only second generation in the USA, being brought up very old world to where you don't talk about emotions as Elna writes about, its very liberating to hear. Thank you, so much!

[18]
Posted by: Connor Walsh
April 13, 2008 - 07:47PM
Wellington, New Zealand

What a fabulous work! It had me captivated. Well done.

[19]
Posted by: Andrew Dafski
April 13, 2008 - 10:21PM
Troy Michigan

I loved your story ! Thanks Ms. Elna Baker and looking forward to hearing your stories on studio360!

[20]
Posted by: Sam Lee
April 13, 2008 - 10:47PM
Seattle

That's a powerful and lovely story!

[21]
Posted by: Amber
April 13, 2008 - 10:57PM
Seattle

Well written and lovely entertainment but certainly not powerful...

This story lacked any critical message. I heard I felt ugly and inadequate as a child, when I lost weight I no longer felt ugly, Mormons are normal, and this is my story.

[22]
Posted by: Hammad
April 14, 2008 - 02:06PM
Washington, DC

That this segment received so many more comments than the rest of the show points to how conflicted and obsessed we as humans and as a society are with body image.

Looking beyond the fact that she was fat and may or may not have lost weight for herself or for others, this story celebrates women who are independent and strong enough to stay single. This story, like Elna's others, shows that she's a girl/woman who knows herself, knows what she wants, and knows what she's not willing to compromise. That's enough to prove this is not a slip back into the 50's.

[23]
Posted by: Therese
April 14, 2008 - 05:48PM

The story inspired many mixed feelings in me about our definition of beauty. Traveling the world has shown me that beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder, and preferences vary greatly from culture to culture.

I'm surprised the Moroccans didn't appreciate Elna's body. The Arab/Muslim world is a place where larger women are admired as much, if not more, than skinny women.

Sadly, this is more-encompassing idea of beauty is disappearing as US media and beauty standards invade all corners of the world.

[24]
Posted by: kn
April 15, 2008 - 02:06AM
los angeles

what a beautiful story!

elna told it with such humor, dignity and insight.

this story wasn't about being fat, or having lost weight and being gorgeous, or getting the gorgeous guy. it was about acceptance of oneself. it was in those final moments when she got the gorgeous guy and realized that he was, indeed, not so attractive on the inside.

her mantra: "i am what i am" is perfect. i will be going back to this story often.

[25]
Posted by: lucy peterson-watkins
April 15, 2008 - 06:05PM
utah

Elna,

Your Grandmother is my dear aunt Helen and your mom is my cousin. I loved your story you are blessed with talent. Lucy

[26]
Posted by: anthony pierulla
April 17, 2008 - 11:23AM
san antonio texas

I agree w/poster 4. The story is electric how often can a bard make you laugh and cry within the same heartbeat. And best of all surprise you w/the ending. Kudos

[27]
Posted by: Charlotte
April 19, 2008 - 04:21PM
Oregon

What an incredible story! It touched me on so many different levels, especially since I'm struggling with my own weight loss--hearing how accepting yourself helped you acheive your goals was truly gratifying. I laughed, I teared up at times...beautiful.

[28]
Posted by: Lynn
April 21, 2008 - 08:18AM
New Jersey

I loved your story! I have never come to this website before, but had to see a picture of The Dress!

[29]
Posted by: Michael Bailey
April 22, 2008 - 01:41PM
Provo, UT

To begin with, I found the story very enjoyable. I have already repeated to a number of people the part about how she lost weight only after she learned to love herself for who she was. That is such an important lesson to learn. Guilt and self-loathing is rarely a strong motivator.

Unfortunately, the second half of the story seemed to betray the message of the first half. I was saddened that her immediate thought was to bag the hottest guy she could find. She didn't seem to be too concerned with finding someone who showed this same sort of love for her that she had worked hard to develop for herself. True, eventually there is a small element of redemption when she rejects the guy. But it was only after he claimed to hate fat people. There was plenty of reason to walk away before that point.

Ultimately, the story saddened me greatly. Being Mormon and a member of a singles ward, I am constantly presented with this culture of women's worth being determined by their ability to attract us males. It made me sad to hear it articulated so clearly. Elna, if you're reading this, I hope you find someone wonderful who loves you rather than someone you were able to catch in your net.

[30]
Posted by: jared
April 24, 2008 - 10:03PM
slc

cute story - loved it

[31]
Posted by: gerry horan
May 25, 2008 - 10:43PM
DC

The mantra that she repeated "I am what I am", which brought her to a place where the weight came off seemingly effortlessly -- this for me was the most memorable and powerful part of this well spoken story.

[32]
Posted by: Emru
June 12, 2008 - 10:29PM
Montreal

I'm surprised that people are criticizing Elna's latching on to the popular guy. She said up front that this was her fantasy. That she chose to try to complete the fantasy when given the opportunity isn't that much different from what the rest of us would do.

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