Macklemore is an unlikely rapper: he’s from the Pacific Northwest, he’s white, he’s proud of wearing secondhand clothes. His single “Thrift Shop” recently topped the Billboard Hot 100, making him the first unsigned artist to do so in more than a decade.
But Macklemore first got attention for his support of gay marriage. “Same Love” came out of his frustration with hip-hop’s misogyny and homophobia: “Those are the two acceptable means of oppression in hip-hop culture,” he tells Kurt Andersen. “There needs to be some accountability. I think that as a society we’re evolving and I think that hip-hop has always been a representation of what’s going on in the world right now.”
Does he think the song — and its viral video — helped sway Washington’s recent referendum upholding gay marriage, Kurt Andersen wonders. “Yes, I do,” he says.
When everyone else
Is more comfortable
Remaining voiceless
Rather than fighting for humans
That have had their rights stolen
I might not be the same
But that's not important
No freedom 'til we're equal
Damn right I support it.
Macklemore began writing the song from the perspective of a gay 13-year-old, after his mother sent him an article about the boy’s suicide. “I played it for my producer, Ryan Lewis,” who told him “‘You know what? This is good, but this isn’t your story and you have a story.’” Macklemore has close gay relatives, and comes from an especially liberal corner of Seattle, but “I also come from the Catholic Church and the hip-hop community, which stereotypically are very homophobic communities,” he tells Kurt.
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis' most recent album is The Heist.
(Originally aired: November 30, 2012)
Bonus Track: How Macklemore got his name
When Ben Haggerty was 17, he spent a summer in New York City. He made the trip to study art, but spent more time running around the city dressed in ridiculous thrift shop finds. In costume, he called himself Professor Macklemore, which he’d later shorten to his rap nom de plume.
Video: "Same Love"
Video: "Thrift Shop"





Comments [5]
Great question about the cursing, ThatBigBlackGuy.
The bleeps were our in-house censoring of Macklemore for the radio -- we did that in the cases that involved a few brief instances of strong language.
In the cases with dropped volume we used self-censored tracks from the clean version of the album Macklemore & Ryan Lewis released. We opted to use the clean tracks because there were many instances of strong language and we thought a long series of bleeps would be too distracting.
Thanks for listening!
Macklemore is wonderfully subversive. His anti-corporate, populist messages of equal rights and frugality run exactly in the opposite direction of mainstream media, and his extremely salty language means that a lot of the people who would try to suppress it are distracted by clutching their pearls in shock. "Labels out here, nah they can’t tell me nothing we give that to the people, spread it across the country" and "I never ever did it for a throne. That validation comes from giving it back to the people"
A lot of people my age [50] believe that pop music is dead and that the art of the protest song has completely vanished. This guy right here proves them utterly wrong. Writing a rap song that arguably swayed an election is no small feet. How refreshing — but not surprising — to find that this young man is smart, articulate, and savvy. Well done.
I have a question regarding the censure of "curse" words.
When playing a clip from "Thrift Shop," when a curse word came up in the chorus it was replaced with that high-note "bleeep" sound one often hears.
At the same time, when another curse word came up during another sample of another song later in the piece, the volume was quickly dropped out instead of the bleeping noise.
What determines the choice between bleeping out and dropping the volume out for curse words.
excellent piece- interesting background, which I knew nothing about from his music
You don't have to know the person to get the music, but having the background did make me appreciate Macklemore even more.
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